QB78D? There's one that may be better coming- the Xisico XS60C

[SeanMP]

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[Dukemeister]

I hope we can soon get these in .22 in Canada non-PAL. I had asked Sniper back in Dec 11 if he ever got any to sell, and unfortunately not. Since there are no Ruger LGR at Lebaron either.... I conclude they haven't made it here yet, so we wait. Can't say I'm a bit disapointed with mt AR2078 - quite the opposite, but an XS60S .22 would be a nice new toy to play with.....From what I read on the USA forums, at first the .22 were about 530 fps, but with various "suggestions" to the manufacturer Zhejiang xinhua something, form the likes of MM, seems they have improved the muzzle velocity in later versions and will have to detune to meet our non-PAL specs.

[AirGunEric]

True enough, but it seems none ever did make it to Canada. Hopefully they start shipping soon.

The QB78 pricing will likely be going up in soon- when everyone's inventory is gone and they need to re-purchase they now have to come through Beeman-S/R (SAG bought them two years ago and they are the importer now) and they have raised the price.

[maecolis]

I like the design of the rifle... A little more modern... looks different enough that I would grab one just to find out how it ticks... Definitely 22 for me...

[jpsgunworks]

Sniper brought one of these to one of the Waterdown shows over a year ago. They feel and balance nice but man are they fugly. I think doing a custom stock for one
would be a PITA . Mike Meleck wound up having to rework all the first ones that were imported into the States, and ended up going to China to help them out. Hopefully
all the kinks will be worked out before we see them here. Oh, and Bob, I think someone on the Yellow allready did the HPA thing already, but no one would do the write up
and post the results as well as you. Look forward to your next project.

[SeanMP]

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[Dukemeister]

Merci and thanks..

[SeanMP]

The Chinese are notorious for saying yes we can do that and yes we will do that...and then delivering the same original item. Koreans are a little better, not much.

But they are the big players on the block now if your looking for BIG steel. (I'm drawing on experience of ships here) Not to many players left in the G20 ISO 9000 crowd that want to work in rudimentary metal forming.

And China is buying and stock piling scrap steel at an alarming rate. (they buy more scrapped ships than EVERY other country combined.) This all says that soon if not now they are going to be in the drivers seat dictating the way things are going to go. But on a good note I think they are getting better year by year.

The Xsisco 60C, if you separate the action from the stock, is a fairly refined piece of work. Not unlike some similar Euro offerings. I agree they didn't do the gun any favors with that stock.

And the newest variants of the AR20xx's with the lever operated breech says to me that they are in fact trying to get to the more elite levels of refinement. The target crowd feels that the diopter sight that they put on the AR's is a perfect replica of the one found on the legendary FWB300....not bad for an item that's almost a freebie

But I agree they are frustrating....try getting a one off anchor made.

[poil27]

The Chinese are notorious for saying yes we can do that and yes we will do that...and then delivering the same original item. Koreans are a little better, not much.

But they are the big players on the block now if your looking for BIG steel. (I'm drawing on experience of ships here) Not to many players left in the G20 ISO 9000 crowd that want to work in rudimentary metal forming.

And China is buying and stock piling scrap steel at an alarming rate. (they buy more scrapped ships than EVERY other country combined.) This all says that soon if not now they are going to be in the drivers seat dictating the way things are going to go. But on a good note I think they are getting better year by year.

The Xsisco 60C, if you separate the action from the stock, is a fairly refined piece of work. Not unlike some similar Euro offerings. I agree they didn't do the gun any favors with that stock.

And the newest variants of the AR20xx's with the lever operated breech says to me that they are in fact trying to get to the more elite levels of refinement. The target crowd feels that the diopter sight that they put on the AR's is a perfect replica of the one found on the legendary FWB300....not bad for an item that's almost a freebie

But I agree they are frustrating....try getting a one off anchor made.

thay are in the driver seat already thay buy not onley scrap but 90% of all new material (including presious metals)

[AirGunEric]

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